[on homosexuality in Hollywood] I was around all that time, and it didn't seem that it was that big a deal. There were art directors, wonderful, integral part of the business, that were taken for granted. You admired them for their talent. It was no big deal. If there was a big set party, there was never any division there. Franklin Pangborn. He was accepted by everybody on set. They thought he was funny in the things he did. He didn't socialize a great deal. But that was not from any prejudice. I never thought that way.