This was one of my favorite books when I first read it overseas as a young Marine grunt back in 1978. When I returned stateside just a year later I ,along with seven other Marines from my unit, was chosen to serve as an extra in this Phil Caputo movie which was filmed (mostly) just south of Mexico City. Owning an original VHS copy, I wanted to also obtain a DVD copy of the original cut. The problem is that the DVD copy that I bought online (same that's pictured here on IMDb - not the original cover) is an edited/foreign version with subtitles. Since then I've had my VHS copy burned to DVD, but I wish could find the original cut on DVD (professionally done). Oh, and my other beef with this foreign cut that sells online is that they cut out my only speaking scene with Lt. Cohen (Michael O'Keefe)...sad. Aside from the experience of being in the movie, I really enjoyed the final product as I thought it brought a lot of realism (both Marine Corps and Vietnam) to the screen. If you get a chance to see the original cut, I believe you'll enjoy it as I did.
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The tedium, the horror, the frustration, the slaughter, the sadness and futility
Wuchakk11 January 2016
Released to TV in two parts in 1980, "A Rumor of War" is a film adaption of Phil Caputo's autobiographical 1977 book of the same name. The story chronicles Caputo (Brad Davis) before the war, during officer training and, mostly, his service in Vietnam as a lieutenant from 1965-1968.
The version I've seen (three times) is the original television version, which is 188 minutes, but it might be more like 191 minutes uncompressed. Some say there's a 195-minute version (which is what my VHS says) and this version likely has 4-5 additional minutes with cussing and nudity, which were deleted for TV. This might indicate that the original version was considered for theatrical release.
In any case, "A Rumor of War" is a quality overview of the infamous war, at least as far as one year through the eyes of an initially passionate young officer. The score is great and varied. There are moody parts reminiscent of "Apocalypse Now" (1979) as well as many parts that influenced the later "Platoon" (1986). While it's not as good as those movies it's surprisingly well done and, as my title blurb says, effectively shows the tedium, the horror, the frustration, the slaughter, the sadness and futility of the war.
The last third switches from Caputo being in charge of a platoon in the bush to being "Officer in Charge of the Dead," back at camp where Caputo said senior officers were more worried about trivial matters than strategy, such as casualty stats, movies being played in the open at night, risking mortar attacks, and enemy corpses being displayed as hunting trophies for visiting generals, etc.
You might remember Brad Davis (R.I.P.) from 1978's excellent "Midnight Express." He's formidable as the protagonist and supported by quality actors, like Michael O'Keefe, Keith Carradine and Brian Dennehy. Stacy Keach and Jeff Daniels have glorified cameos. Gail Youngs has the sole mentionable female role.
BOTTOM LINE: "A Rumor of War" isn't bizarre and fantastical like "Apocalypse Now" or over-the-top like "Platoon." It's a thoroughly realistic take on the Vietnam War through the eyes of a green lieutenant and his one-year experience.
The film was shot in Camp Pendleton, Oceanside, California, and Mexico.
GRADE: B
The version I've seen (three times) is the original television version, which is 188 minutes, but it might be more like 191 minutes uncompressed. Some say there's a 195-minute version (which is what my VHS says) and this version likely has 4-5 additional minutes with cussing and nudity, which were deleted for TV. This might indicate that the original version was considered for theatrical release.
In any case, "A Rumor of War" is a quality overview of the infamous war, at least as far as one year through the eyes of an initially passionate young officer. The score is great and varied. There are moody parts reminiscent of "Apocalypse Now" (1979) as well as many parts that influenced the later "Platoon" (1986). While it's not as good as those movies it's surprisingly well done and, as my title blurb says, effectively shows the tedium, the horror, the frustration, the slaughter, the sadness and futility of the war.
The last third switches from Caputo being in charge of a platoon in the bush to being "Officer in Charge of the Dead," back at camp where Caputo said senior officers were more worried about trivial matters than strategy, such as casualty stats, movies being played in the open at night, risking mortar attacks, and enemy corpses being displayed as hunting trophies for visiting generals, etc.
You might remember Brad Davis (R.I.P.) from 1978's excellent "Midnight Express." He's formidable as the protagonist and supported by quality actors, like Michael O'Keefe, Keith Carradine and Brian Dennehy. Stacy Keach and Jeff Daniels have glorified cameos. Gail Youngs has the sole mentionable female role.
BOTTOM LINE: "A Rumor of War" isn't bizarre and fantastical like "Apocalypse Now" or over-the-top like "Platoon." It's a thoroughly realistic take on the Vietnam War through the eyes of a green lieutenant and his one-year experience.
The film was shot in Camp Pendleton, Oceanside, California, and Mexico.
GRADE: B
Wonderfully moody + realistic tv-film on the "everlasting" Nam War.
von-1331 May 2000
Found this really neat and tight little tv-production on an old vhs x-rental tape the other day. Wholeheartedly recommendable to anyone with the slightest interest in the psychological aspects of warfare. Hardcore action/shoot 'em up-fans should proceed with care, as emphasis is not on the bodycount...luckily!! Great acting all around...perhaps best of all by the possible "VC-agents" in minor roles. Oh, and Ken Foree...of DAWN O T DEAD fame...does a funny scene as an MP. Danish tape runs a fully 3 hours and some secs(pal system) and a hard find for collectors....I was dirt lucky. Cheers
Better Than Average War Film - A Rumor of War
arthur_tafero3 May 2021
Born on the Fourth of July has a lot in common with this previous film; gung-ho young man craves action and release from the Billy-Joel like mundane existence of the suburbs. Nothing like a little reality check to bring you back to your senses. The sad realities were you didn't get a second chance most of the time to correct your mistake. Not as good as Born on the Fourth, but entertaining enough despite a few Vietnam stereotypes; the Vietnamese are merely props in this film. The Saigon sequences looked more like Tiahuana than Saigon, but the majority of the film rings true. Worth viewing.
Sadly Cut to Pieces - Masterpiece as original
tandkmoran27 March 2006
The movie is a true story. The book gave me bad nightmares, especially the chapter "Officer in Charge of the Dead". Saw it's premiere on TV, which had big time graphic warnings at the end of each commerical break. Sad to say - I doubt the REAL original cut exists. To date I've rented 3 different versions on VHS, none matched the original and one was cut to deliver a different theme - pure butchery. Your experience with this flick will vary wildly, depending upon which release you've happened upon. Probably Brian Denehey's best performance ever. One release I rented cut all the Marine Officer Training school and Ofcr in Charge of the Dead chapters entirely. My advice - read the book, then look for the longest version of this masterpiece that you can find. This sorely needs a restored DVD release. Marine Officer veterans of Vietnam should see this flick, it's the only Vietnam movie that won't leave a bad taste in their mouths. Many fine performances, amazing jungle photography. Fave quote; "You stay here - you learn!"
as real as it gets plus 200%
revtg1-218 June 2009
I served my time in Korea. Five years after I came back old time school mates of mine were being drafted for Vietnam. I later heard their stories over quarts of beer and doobies. This movie IS their story. I was sitting on my couch watching the big ambush scene and it scared the hell out of me in my own living room. The scene where Brian Dennehy tells Lt. Catuto that 19 year old kids in Korea checked their rifle sights by shooting down Korean farmers came home to me. My brother, who fought from the first of the Korean war through the Chosen battle, told me the same thing. This movie has it all. The boredom, the terror, the frustration, the slaughter, the sadness, the futility. And it is real. It starts out slow but when it kicks in it gives no quarter, cuts no slack and takes no prisoners. If you ever carried a rifle in a combat zone at night alone you can relate to it. But even if you have no recollection of the Vietnam war era you can still sense the reality.
Close to the book!
mm-3918 December 2019
Warning: Spoilers
Close to the book! I read A Rumor of War and the C B S movie stayed close to the book. Training and the Marine core life is excellently portrayed. The Vietnam experience of fighting a hidden enemy is great. A Rumor of War has in country (Vietnam) experience of drudgery and boredom suddenly changed into fear and violence resonates with the audience. The V C body scene and the chain of command hits the viewer. A Rumor of War back ground scenes of fighting an enemy which hides behind civilians creates stress which make the Davis character un-ravels in the fog of war. The recreation ofDavis dreams and the loses of his friends shows what goes on in the protagonist mind which follows the true nature of the book; one sees how the beloved Sargent character (Brian D) and the other Lt (Keith C) interact with Davis and creates a human side to war;the character development create an essence of the real experience when get from watching The Rumor of War book. The minor details from the book added to the T V version of A Rumor of War make the series one of the best t v movies made. Eight out of ten stars.
Like the war, the rumor was never declared.
mark.waltz17 December 2023
Warning: Spoilers
What's interesting to me about this two part TV movie about one soldier's experience before, during and after the Vietnam War is that it never takes a side, pro-or-against. Certainly it shows that all war is bad, even when necessary, because even the winning side looses in one way or another, between casualties, life changing injuries (both mental and physical) and how society is altered in many ways. For Brad Davis, going to war is an improvement on being a 22 year old man still living at home, obviously being suppressed by domineering parents. The first scenes focus on his disgust with the sameness of his dull home town, and he's rebelling with a cause, trying to discover his own identity.
The story is basically a series of events, as life always is, and how one event can change the course of someone's life. A scene where one group is singing "Dixie", while another sings "Battle Hymn of the Republic" as an objection, then the marines in command break into "From the Halls of Montezuma", shows the difference in ideals of these three groups, showing a domestic war going on just as Davis is about to go to war. When the last song is heard just as instrumental in the closing credits, it's a somber mixture of various instruments, arranged in a way that indicates a tragedy from which no one can recover.
Supporting Davis (giving another brilliant performance that sadly reminds the viewer of the greatness of an actor taken far too soon) are Michael Ontkean and Keith Carradine as his fellow recruits, Brian Dennehy as their direct sergeant who is nobly supportive of his men, a young Jeff Daniels as the chaplain, and Steve Forrest and Richard Bradford as the commanding officers. Laurence Fishburne is recognizable as one of the other recruits, a smaller part. I didn't really learn anything new about the Vietnam War, but this is certainly up there with other classics on this topic from around the same time that would increase later on in the 80's.
The story is basically a series of events, as life always is, and how one event can change the course of someone's life. A scene where one group is singing "Dixie", while another sings "Battle Hymn of the Republic" as an objection, then the marines in command break into "From the Halls of Montezuma", shows the difference in ideals of these three groups, showing a domestic war going on just as Davis is about to go to war. When the last song is heard just as instrumental in the closing credits, it's a somber mixture of various instruments, arranged in a way that indicates a tragedy from which no one can recover.
Supporting Davis (giving another brilliant performance that sadly reminds the viewer of the greatness of an actor taken far too soon) are Michael Ontkean and Keith Carradine as his fellow recruits, Brian Dennehy as their direct sergeant who is nobly supportive of his men, a young Jeff Daniels as the chaplain, and Steve Forrest and Richard Bradford as the commanding officers. Laurence Fishburne is recognizable as one of the other recruits, a smaller part. I didn't really learn anything new about the Vietnam War, but this is certainly up there with other classics on this topic from around the same time that would increase later on in the 80's.
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