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8/10
A great series starts to find its groove
sarcasticidealist29 December 2017
Warning: Spoilers
(This review contains spoilers not only of the episode being reviewed, but of subsequent episodes and seasons as well.)

BoJack Horseman is one of my favourite TV shows of all-time. One of the unforeseen downsides to embarking on this project to review every episode, starting at the beginning, is that I've spent a lot of time denigrating one of my favourite TV shows of all-time - it's a truth self-evident that the early episodes do not do the series justice. That denigration ends here (well, temporarily): "Zoës and Zeldas" is the best episode of season 1's first half, and the first episode that can stand among the better ones of later seasons (though not among the best ones).

There are so many things to love about this episode. Most importantly, the character development ramps up a couple of notches from earlier episodes. We learn a bit about the BoJack-Herb relationship of the past (and about BoJack's reluctance to mention it in the present). We learn a lot about the BoJack-Todd relationship (and exactly which of them is more dependent on the other - which is driven home at the end of season 3 and the beginning of season 4, when it's Todd who manages to break the co-dependency). We see the beginnings of real intimacy between BoJack and Diane. We see Diane continue to become one of the series' most interesting characters, at once its wisest and its least secure in her sense of self - and the weaknesses in her relationship with Mr. Peanutbutter, but also of the strengths (and the episode, comfortable in its ambiguity, does not take a side as to which outweigh the other).

For the first time, we see BoJack's demons battle his better angels and, not for the last time, we see his demons win. For the first time in the series, he takes genuine initiative - both in helping Todd with his rock opera, and then in sabotaging it. BoJack is, objectively speaking, not a good person, and the series doesn't gloss over that fact, but he's human(/horseman) enough for us to still relate to, and cheer for, him.

On the lighter side, this episode would be a success if all it did was introduce Character Actress Margo Martindale. And, to top it all off, it's the funniest episode so far - some of my favourite jokes:

* I had to look up who David Chase and Steven Bochco - the creators of the insipid Mr. Peanutbutter's House - were, but once I did I found that joke pretty funny; I hope Mssrs. Chase and Bochco felt similarly.

* Mr. Peanutbutter guessing "...no?" in response to Wayne's obviously rhetorical "Now, was (Mr. Peanutbutter's House)'s acting ham-fisted and the writing moronic?"

* "You say tom-a-to/tom-ah-to, I say tom-a-to/tom-a-to."

* "Loam? A planet rich with loam?" "Yeah, it's a kind of soil. These people are simple, agricultural types." "On a spaceship?"

* The reveal that Decapathon VII is a Tetris-like puzzler, rather than the gore-fest we were built up to expect.

* "Come on, like you're not going to tear BoJack apart in your book." "I'm not tearing him apart - I'm writing a nuanced portrait of a complicated man!" "Well, then, we might be doing different things."

* And, of course - and perhaps most of all - Mr. Peanutbutter's "I like that guy!" after it's revealed that he was present for Wayne's entire speech about why Diane's relationship with Mr. Peanutbutter is doomed.

Even a joke that falls flat - the flashback to the baby bird getting pushed out of the nest too soon - is a positive sign, precisely because it falls flat. "BoJack Horseman: The BoJack Horseman Story, Chapter 1" relies heavily on that sort of Family Guy knock-off, but now, it feels out-of-place, because the series has established a much more impressive identity of its own.

So why, given my effusive praise, doesn't this episode rank as among the series' best? Because the series' best episodes leave us disturbed and heart-broken - at once wanting to re-watch them immediately, and to never re-watch them at all - and this one doesn't. Even so, it's the first episode that feels like the series knows where it wants to go and how it wants to get there: BoJack Horseman has arrived.

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Best animal-based visual gags: a tie between the moths congregating in the spotlight outside the Gloria Steinem roast, and the goat eating a plate inside.

Best running joke: Mr. Peanutbutter, Virgil, and Todd each giving their own version of the "Fool me once..." adage. Honourable mention to BoJack's failure to satisfy Princess Carolyn.

Best cameo by a character from another episode: the flashback at the beginning of the episode includes the crickets who will heckle BoJack in "Let's Find Out", the pelican bartender from Belican's (at least, I assume it's the same one - is it racist that I think that all pelicans look kind of the same?), and the foraging raccoons, but the obvious winner here is Todd's ex-girlfriend Emily. Honourable mention to what might just be Governor Woodchuck Coodchuk-Berkowitz on the cover of a magazine in the 8-Twelve.

Joke that I find it most frustrating that I don't get: Mr. Peanutbutter's concluding a story with "...and that's the last time I worked with David O. Russell." I've done some googling, but I still don't get it.

Best theory that I feel compelled to advance but that doesn't fit neatly into the review: the Beast Buy hippopotamus clerk is named "Henry". The only other hippopotamus character in the series is Hank Hippopopalous. "Hank" is, of course, short for "Henry". We know that Hank Hippopopalous has been wildly popular for many years - one would think that he'd be an icon among hippopotamuses. Conclusion: the Beast Buy clerk was probably named after Hank Hippopopalous.
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7/10
Are you a BoJack or a Mr. Peanutbutter?
szyslak-613032 February 2021
So, are you a Zoë or a Zelda? I think I am closer to a Zoë. Incidentally, I guess I've watched this episode in the Zoë mood. I can't find too much to remark from this one except for the brilliant meditation about what character of the Mr. Peanutbutter's show are you more alike to, and except that stunning ending, reflecting on the idiosyncrasy of Diane, and particularly of BoJack, who are defined like Zoë too (the latter one, got it undoubtedly deserved). That was the kind of montages that makes me love the show. The actions of BoJack in this episode confirms the meanness and selfishness there are inside him. He poked out a likable side and bury it ruining the big opportunity Todd had to mature. Other minor highlights are the hit-and-miss dynamic between BoJack and Todd, both when they are confronted or working together, and the new storyline opened to future episodes, since the episode finished with a first-plane of the ticket of the videogame that damaged Todd. One of my problems with this one is that Todd's project barely calls my attention. His opera is always boring for me, whether when it is supposed to be boring and when it is supposed to be great. Another one is that I didn't care for the new characters except for Margo, whose participation is always delightful. Neither Wayne, who delivered too little and only advantage is the possibility for Mr. Peanutbutter to shine with his hilarious observations, nor Virgin Van Cleef, who is probably one of the least memorable guest characters of the entire show. Oh, and this is probably the least funny episode so far.
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8/10
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Edvis-19977 July 2019
Bojack Horseman shown that he is very sensitive but also cruel at the same time. Ending was though....
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9/10
The turning point of the Show
saschageisler22 September 2018
Usually people say about a new show: "Watch the first three episodes. If you don't like it, don't continue." If I did that with BoJack Horseman, I would have missed what is now my favourite show - because with BoJack Horseman, you need to watch the fourth episode until the show reveals its full potential. Until the third episode, BoJack Horseman is an interesting and fresh approach to a comedy show. Nothing more, nothing less. But "Zoës and Zeldas" hit me with a hammer on the head. Actually, the ending made me cry and sit almost paralysed in front of my screen. The courage of the writers letting a comedy show's protagonist do what is revealed at the end of the episode is dark, heartbreaking and gives you a glimpse what you can expect from this show in the following episodes.
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10/10
Too Much to Even Talk About
Hitchcoc1 February 2021
This is a seminal episode. It gives us background information on virtually every character. Bojack has little loyalty. He frequently lets others in on his riches, but tosses people aside at a moment's notice. Todd says he has been working on a rock opera. We find out that he is really a genius and has the past to prove it. That's is not enough, so Bojack sets him up and then tears him down. The title implies that everyone on the planet can be categorized in one of the two sets: Zoe or Zelda. In the end, poor Todd is betrayed and actually is grateful for what he has.
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7/10
Bojack's Acting Skills
injury-654472 July 2020
His acting skills are beyond reproach here! I totally bought it & so did poor little Todd. Bravo Bojack! Bravo!

I didn't laugh much in the episode but I still appreciate what they're going for. There's a heartfelt and depressing dimension to the show.
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10/10
Damm, the turning point...
woutdedroog-3465521 July 2022
I was starting to think about quitting this show but this episode was really different but wow the last 5 minutes... Are you a mr peanutbutter or a bojack.....

W

W W W W W W.
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7/10
A Good Episode for Character Development
aidricalamea22 March 2022
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BoJack is becoming more and more twisted every episode. Setting up tod can not be good. Margo Martindale is a truly hilarious character. For the first time todd has some very good character development and I can really sympathize with his backstory. Mr. Peanutbutter is becoming more entertaining with before. Diane is brilliant, and you can't help going through her thought process about her relationship with Mr. Peanutbutter. The scene where Wayne tells Diane that she is a Zoe is amzing. Bojack's plotting is a little overexaggerated though, and so is much of the humour. Overall, a great episode held back by some of the jokes - 7/10.
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8/10
Strong Bojack and Todd episode
snoozejonc15 January 2024
Bojack attempts to help Todd devep his music career.

This is a funny episode with good banter between characters.

I like the focus on Todd, which is quite good for his backstory and the ongoing introduction of the character and also the development of the Bojack.

The dialogue includes lots of good banter between Bojack and various guest characters. I particularly like "fool me once" related banter and other funny wordplay.

There is a dark twist to the plot that although is revealed in a sort of humorous way, it is more than a little unsettling and makes you want to watch more. It sort of feels like a tribute to Breaking Bad in the kind of way that Jessie would be selfishly exploited by Walter in some respects.
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7/10
An Exploration of Mentorship and Self-Discovery With Humor and Heart
ziancara13 April 2023
The fourth episode of BoJack Horseman's first season, "Zoës and Zeldas," explores the themes of mentorship and self-discovery through the relationship between BoJack and Todd.

In the episode, BoJack takes Todd under his wing and tries to teach him the ins and outs of the entertainment industry. While Todd is initially excited about the prospect of having BoJack as a mentor, he soon realizes that his own aspirations may not align with BoJack's vision for his career.

One of the strengths of the episode is its exploration of the complexities of mentorship. BoJack's desire to help Todd comes from a place of genuine concern, but it is also rooted in his own desire for validation and the hope that he can mold Todd into the kind of sidekick he always wanted. Similarly, Todd's willingness to learn from BoJack comes from a desire for success, but he also recognizes the limitations of BoJack's worldview and the ways in which it may not align with his own goals and values.

The episode also features some great humor, particularly in the form of a subplot involving Diane's ex-boyfriend and his attempts to write an online article about Mr. Peanutbutter. The satire is biting and the jokes are clever, making for some of the funniest moments of the episode.

However, "Zoës and Zeldas" is not without its flaws. The pacing can be slow at times, and some of the jokes fall flat. Additionally, while the exploration of mentorship is interesting, the episode doesn't quite dig deep enough into the characters' motivations and desires.

Overall, "Zoës and Zeldas" is a decent episode of BoJack Horseman that explores the complexities of mentorship and self-discovery through the relationship between BoJack and Todd. While it has some weaknesses in terms of pacing and character development, it also has some great humor and clever satire that make it an enjoyable addition to the series.
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9/10
Are u Zoë or Zelda ....
mr_n0u51 June 2021
"We're Zoes... We're cynical and were are sad and we are mean.. There is a darkness inside us"
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